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First off -- Thanks to everyone who has been answering my questions this past week. It's been immensely helpful.
I am now bedroom DJ-ing successfully with Ableton Live 6 on a Windows XP laptop with an M-Audio Fast Track Pro (audio interface) and an M-Audio X-Session Pro (MIDI controller).
I will start using this setup for two live DJ gigs next week.
I still have a few more (somewhat less urgent) questions. I have a feeling that the answer to most of these is "Sorry, Live doesn't do that," but I'll ask anyway. If the answer to any of these is "Live 6 doesn't do that but Live 7 does", that would be good to know too.
1) For a clip on an audio track, I can adjust the clip's volume on Master Out. Is there a way to also adjust the clip's volume on Cue (when it's not playing on Master Out)?
2) If a clip on an audio track is playing to Master Out and I accidentally click on the clip's triangle icon, the clip will start over from the beginning. This would be disasterous if the clip is a full song (not a loop). Is there a preference somewhere that will prevent this type of mistake?
3) I've noticed that each audio track has a horizontal bar that shows the time length of the clip, with a progress indicator that shows how much of the clip has played. What I really want, though, is to see a text (not graphical) display of how much time has passed and how much time is left until the end of the clip. This could be expressed either in minutes and seconds or in bars and beats.
4) I've noticed that there are master "play", "stop" and "record" buttons at the top of the screen. I've also noticed that each audio track has a button that determines if the track is active (playing to Master Out) or not. What I'd like is a stop button that just affects the clips on one audio track.
5) For each audio track, I have a vertical slider on the MIDI controller that controls the track's volume. In the default configuration, the very bottom of the slider maps to negative infinity db, and the top of the slider maps to +6 db. The problem: If I have the slider set so that the volume is 0 db, and then I move the slider halfway down, the volume drops by way more than 50%, which feels awfully unintuitive. My current solution is to have the bottom of the slider map to -30 db instead of negative infinity db. This mostly solves the problem, but it seems a bit sketchy (since I can't completely mute the track by sliding the slider all the way down). Is there a better way to do this?
Thanks for any advice on these topics. I really appreciate it.
I am now bedroom DJ-ing successfully with Ableton Live 6 on a Windows XP laptop with an M-Audio Fast Track Pro (audio interface) and an M-Audio X-Session Pro (MIDI controller).
I will start using this setup for two live DJ gigs next week.
I still have a few more (somewhat less urgent) questions. I have a feeling that the answer to most of these is "Sorry, Live doesn't do that," but I'll ask anyway. If the answer to any of these is "Live 6 doesn't do that but Live 7 does", that would be good to know too.
1) For a clip on an audio track, I can adjust the clip's volume on Master Out. Is there a way to also adjust the clip's volume on Cue (when it's not playing on Master Out)?
2) If a clip on an audio track is playing to Master Out and I accidentally click on the clip's triangle icon, the clip will start over from the beginning. This would be disasterous if the clip is a full song (not a loop). Is there a preference somewhere that will prevent this type of mistake?
3) I've noticed that each audio track has a horizontal bar that shows the time length of the clip, with a progress indicator that shows how much of the clip has played. What I really want, though, is to see a text (not graphical) display of how much time has passed and how much time is left until the end of the clip. This could be expressed either in minutes and seconds or in bars and beats.
4) I've noticed that there are master "play", "stop" and "record" buttons at the top of the screen. I've also noticed that each audio track has a button that determines if the track is active (playing to Master Out) or not. What I'd like is a stop button that just affects the clips on one audio track.
5) For each audio track, I have a vertical slider on the MIDI controller that controls the track's volume. In the default configuration, the very bottom of the slider maps to negative infinity db, and the top of the slider maps to +6 db. The problem: If I have the slider set so that the volume is 0 db, and then I move the slider halfway down, the volume drops by way more than 50%, which feels awfully unintuitive. My current solution is to have the bottom of the slider map to -30 db instead of negative infinity db. This mostly solves the problem, but it seems a bit sketchy (since I can't completely mute the track by sliding the slider all the way down). Is there a better way to do this?
Thanks for any advice on these topics. I really appreciate it.
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Unsu...
Re: a few more questions
Sat, March 1, 2008 - 9:29 PMI'm sure others will jump in on this...
1-- hmmm...I don't use cue much so you'll have to get someone else's input on that one. I don't think that option is available though.
2 - I'm not sure what triangle icon you mean...check your launch settings under preferences. You can also remove the "stop" buttons with Control+E or something like that - so you have your loop start point and then the next scene you remove the stop button so if you are launching a clip in another audio channel it won't stop or reset the track already playing
Here's the best I can offer for 3 - set the track to "loop" if it is warped and it will give you a bar count on a little spinning circle - of course, this works better for shorter loops than full tracks, but at least it lets you know when the clip is coming close to its end - when I am DJing with Live I usually break a song up into 3 or 4 clips with tight warping markers on the first and last for mixing - you can also set the clip start marker way before an actual loop - so say you have a 2 1/2 minute block of the song set your start marker at the beginning and then move the loop section of to the last 8 or 16 bars you need - I often just keep at the track visible in the bottom tabbed window to get an idea of where I am at and then wait for a 16 bar loop that I set at the end of the 1 or 2 clips between mixing loops. It gives you a little bit of "oh shit!" room and also avoids trainwrecking...
4- each track in each scene is set with a little stop button. you can assign them to MIDI or remove them like I mentioned in answer to 2.
5- adjusting your mapping settings is about all you can do for this...another option is assigning a "mute" button for each channel to your MIDI controller - I use an M-audio trigger finger for DJing and live performance. I usually only use 2-3 channels of audio when DJing and have them assigned to the faders on the trigger finger and assign trigger pads to the channel "on/off" in Live - this way you can keep your volume control mapped where you want and still have the option to completely silence the track.
I could probably give better answers if I were in front of my studio at home right now but I'm at work and don't have access to Live...a lot of the stuff you're trying to do is doable for the most part - it just takes some tweaking. Live is deep and takes several months to understand and use to its fullest potential. I've been using it for almost 2 years now and still keep finding new and easier ways of doing routine mixing and performance setups...and each version they put out seems to get better and better and address more and more issues.
One thing I'd also mention - if you upgrade to 7 you have the option of tempo nudge. If you have DJed in the past on decks or CDs then you could integrate your laptop as well and sync it up pretty tight.
Good luck...
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Unsu...
Re: a few more questions
Sat, March 1, 2008 - 9:40 PMp.s. - Carl (Solovox) or Audiovoid might have some more useful tips - I know Carl has been using Live since it was born - he probably knows more about the program than anyone using it but the programmers in Germany making it.
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Re: a few more questions
Sun, March 2, 2008 - 8:28 AM
re:question 1
If you adjust the icon with the headphone symbol in the master channel in the arrangement view, it will adjust the cue volume.
J