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    <title>Ableton + Novation Remote SL deep problem - :: Ableton Live : Abuse the Warp Markers - tribe.net</title>
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      <title>Ableton + Novation Remote SL deep problem</title>
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      <description>Hey guys,&#xD;
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I am dealing with a deep issue and need some help from a guru.  Understanding this problem will require experience using a Novation Remote SL in tandem with Ableton Live.&#xD;
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My rig consists very simply of a Macbook 2 GHz Intel Core Duo running OS 10.4.11 with Live 6.0.1. It is connected via USB to a Novation Remote SL 25.&#xD;
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What I am attempting to do is this: I have a Live session with ten audio regions on one track in arrangement view (I am working only within arrangement view). I have placed a locator at the beginning of each region. My task is to assign each locator to a different button on my Remote SL. Very simple indeed.&#xD;
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On the Live side of this task, all this requires is entering MIDI map mode, and mapping the locators to the buttons on my Remote SL. This was easily accomplished.&#xD;
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On the Remote side, it is a bit more tedious. I have to create a new template in their template editor. My starting point for this process was a template that Novation provides, called 'MIDI CC Learn.syx', which is a template specifically for editing yourself.&#xD;
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All I really had to do was dictate what kind of MIDI messages those buttons would send. I decided to make them CC messages, with a default value of 0, a release/max value of 0, and a Press/min value of 127. I then designated the 'button type' as 'Momentary'.&#xD;
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So once I had done this, it was working pretty well: I press the button, and the cursor moves to the corresponding locator. And on the LCD display of my Novation, when I press the button, the value changes from 127 while I'm pressing the button, and goes back to 0 when I take my finger off it.&#xD;
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But there was an unexpected problem. For two of the buttons, when I pushed them the cursor would move to their locator, but then I could not execute any commands (such as 'play', or moving to another locator) for about 5 seconds. In other words, the cursor would be 'frozen' as that locator for about 5 seconds.&#xD;
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I noticed that on the LCD, when I would press either of these two problematic buttons, the CC value would stay at 127 for about 5 seconds, even after I took my finger off the button. Clearly, that was why the cursor was still locked at that locator after I took my finger off the button.&#xD;
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So it was time to troubleshoot.  First, I double-checked that the template settings were the same for those two buttons as they were on other buttons. Indeed they were. Second, I considered that perhaps the buttons themselves were defective and getting 'stuck' in the pressed position. I tested this by assigning those locators to different buttons on my Remote SL. To my great surprise, the problem persisted.&#xD;
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So I figured there must be something in my Live session causing this to happen. I thus proceeded to change things in my Live session to see if I could figure out the problem. Here are the various things I tried:&#xD;
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1. I quit Live, turned off my Remote SL, shut down my computer, and then restarted everything. The problem persisted.&#xD;
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2. I deleted all the locators and the re-created them. The problem persisted.&#xD;
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3. I deleted all locators, then copy/pasted the two problematic audio regions to the end of my session, and deleted the originals in the middle of the session, where they were previously. I then created new locators. I found that the new copy/pasted duplicates of those original audio regions worked fine but, to my shock, now two other audio regions (and their locators) were behaving in the same problematic way!&#xD;
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4. I created a completely new Live session. I imported into it 10 random mp3s and arranged them as audio regions spaced across one track. I then assigned each a locator, and assigned them to buttons on my Remote SL. To my complete shock, I had the same problem!!! Two of the audio regions behaved in the same, problematic way!! Just for the heck of it, I once again reassigned the locators to different buttons on my Remote SL. Of course, just like before, it made no difference. The same two audio regions still behaved problematically.&#xD;
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Now I'm at a complete loss. Any help would be appreciated.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:38:43 GMT</pubDate>
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